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Let's say I have a runnable with a simple integer count variable which is incremented every time runnable runs. One instance of this object is submitted to run periodically in a scheduled executor service.



class Counter implements Runnable 
private int count = 0;

@Override
public void run()
count++;



Counter counter = new Counter();
ScheduledExecutorService executorService = Executors.newScheduledThreadPool(5);
executorService.scheduleWithFixedDelay(counter, 1, 1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);


Here, object is accessing its own internal state inside of different threads (reading and incrementing). Is this code thread safe or it's possible that we lose updates to count variable when it's scheduled in a different thread?










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  • Nope; most definitely not.

    – Boris the Spider
    3 hours ago






  • 3





    Just to be clear: When the answers below say "...no happens-before..." what they're saying is, Suppose count==N. Then along comes worker thread A, which sets count = N+1. Then one whole second later, worker thread B is chosen to call the run() method, and worker thread B looks at count. It is possible at that point for worker thread B to still see count == N.

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Let's say I have a runnable with a simple integer count variable which is incremented every time runnable runs. One instance of this object is submitted to run periodically in a scheduled executor service.



class Counter implements Runnable 
private int count = 0;

@Override
public void run()
count++;



Counter counter = new Counter();
ScheduledExecutorService executorService = Executors.newScheduledThreadPool(5);
executorService.scheduleWithFixedDelay(counter, 1, 1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);


Here, object is accessing its own internal state inside of different threads (reading and incrementing). Is this code thread safe or it's possible that we lose updates to count variable when it's scheduled in a different thread?










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  • Nope; most definitely not.

    – Boris the Spider
    3 hours ago






  • 3





    Just to be clear: When the answers below say "...no happens-before..." what they're saying is, Suppose count==N. Then along comes worker thread A, which sets count = N+1. Then one whole second later, worker thread B is chosen to call the run() method, and worker thread B looks at count. It is possible at that point for worker thread B to still see count == N.

    – Solomon Slow
    2 hours ago














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Let's say I have a runnable with a simple integer count variable which is incremented every time runnable runs. One instance of this object is submitted to run periodically in a scheduled executor service.



class Counter implements Runnable 
private int count = 0;

@Override
public void run()
count++;



Counter counter = new Counter();
ScheduledExecutorService executorService = Executors.newScheduledThreadPool(5);
executorService.scheduleWithFixedDelay(counter, 1, 1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);


Here, object is accessing its own internal state inside of different threads (reading and incrementing). Is this code thread safe or it's possible that we lose updates to count variable when it's scheduled in a different thread?










share|improve this question














Let's say I have a runnable with a simple integer count variable which is incremented every time runnable runs. One instance of this object is submitted to run periodically in a scheduled executor service.



class Counter implements Runnable 
private int count = 0;

@Override
public void run()
count++;



Counter counter = new Counter();
ScheduledExecutorService executorService = Executors.newScheduledThreadPool(5);
executorService.scheduleWithFixedDelay(counter, 1, 1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);


Here, object is accessing its own internal state inside of different threads (reading and incrementing). Is this code thread safe or it's possible that we lose updates to count variable when it's scheduled in a different thread?







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  • Nope; most definitely not.

    – Boris the Spider
    3 hours ago






  • 3





    Just to be clear: When the answers below say "...no happens-before..." what they're saying is, Suppose count==N. Then along comes worker thread A, which sets count = N+1. Then one whole second later, worker thread B is chosen to call the run() method, and worker thread B looks at count. It is possible at that point for worker thread B to still see count == N.

    – Solomon Slow
    2 hours ago


















  • Nope; most definitely not.

    – Boris the Spider
    3 hours ago






  • 3





    Just to be clear: When the answers below say "...no happens-before..." what they're saying is, Suppose count==N. Then along comes worker thread A, which sets count = N+1. Then one whole second later, worker thread B is chosen to call the run() method, and worker thread B looks at count. It is possible at that point for worker thread B to still see count == N.

    – Solomon Slow
    2 hours ago

















Nope; most definitely not.

– Boris the Spider
3 hours ago





Nope; most definitely not.

– Boris the Spider
3 hours ago




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3





Just to be clear: When the answers below say "...no happens-before..." what they're saying is, Suppose count==N. Then along comes worker thread A, which sets count = N+1. Then one whole second later, worker thread B is chosen to call the run() method, and worker thread B looks at count. It is possible at that point for worker thread B to still see count == N.

– Solomon Slow
2 hours ago






Just to be clear: When the answers below say "...no happens-before..." what they're saying is, Suppose count==N. Then along comes worker thread A, which sets count = N+1. Then one whole second later, worker thread B is chosen to call the run() method, and worker thread B looks at count. It is possible at that point for worker thread B to still see count == N.

– Solomon Slow
2 hours ago













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No this code is not thread-safe because there is no happens-before relation between increments made in different threads started with ScheduledExecutorService.



To fix it you need to either mark variable as volatile or switch to AtomicInteger or AtomicLong.



UPDATE:
As @BoristheSpider mentioned, in general in case of increment/decrement making variable volatile is not enough since increment/decrement is not atomic itself and calling it from several threads concurrently will cause race conditions and missed updates. However in this particular case scheduleWithFixedDelay() guarantees (according to Javadoc) that there will be overlapping executions of scheduled task so volatile will also work in this particular case even with increment.






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  • @BoristheSpider taking into account how scheduleWithFixedDelay work there will be no overlapped calls to counter++ in that particular scenario. So volatile should be OK.

    – Ivan
    3 hours ago












  • There is a happens-before relation introduced between subsequent execution of a task scheduled with scheduleWithFixedDelay.

    – Sotirios Delimanolis
    2 hours ago











  • How come volatile is not enough? The semantics of volatile should hold in every case and it would solve this problem. In the past, the writing of doubles and longs could have been more difficult to do atomically since those occupied more than one 32-bit register. However, as far as I can tell, that should not affect the semantics of volatile. Or am I missing something?

    – Edwin Dalorzo
    1 hour ago











  • @EdwinDalorzo in this particular case volatile is enough. But in general case not because increment is effectively translated into 3 operations: read, add, write and is prone to race condition in multithreaded environment

    – Ivan
    1 hour ago











  • To reiterate, the code they have posted is thread-safe. This answer is wrong.

    – Sotirios Delimanolis
    52 mins ago


















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No this is code is not thread safe since there is no happens before relation between different threads accessing count.






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    Even then it's not thread safe, because ++ isn't atomic.

    – Andy Turner
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    @michid please correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't counter++ be synchronized too as increment operation is not atomic.

    – Yug Singh
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    Does counter++ need to be synchronized even if it's guaranteed that only one thread will be running this runnable at a time (like in the code in the question)?

    – RandomQuestion
    3 hours ago












  • @RandomQuestion yes. Because visibility.

    – Boris the Spider
    3 hours ago












  • I agree with the comments here that accesses to counter++ should be synchronized and that merely declaring it volatile is not sufficient. I edited my answer accordingly focusing on the happens-before relation.

    – michid
    3 hours ago


















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Does object always see its latest internal state irrespective of thread?



Just to be clear for the purposes of this question and its answers, an object doesn't do anything, it's just memory. Threads are the executing entity. It's misleading to say does an object see whatever. It's the thread that's doing the seeing/reading of object state.



This isn't specified in the javadoc, but



Executors.newScheduledThreadPool(5);


returns a ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.



Your code is using



executorService.scheduleWithFixedDelay(counter, 1, 1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);


The javadoc for ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor#scheduledWithFixedDelay states




Submits a periodic action that becomes enabled first after the given
initial delay, and subsequently with the given delay between the
termination of one execution and the commencement of the next.




The class javadoc further clarifies




Successive executions of a periodic task scheduled via
scheduleAtFixedRate or scheduleWithFixedDelay do not overlap.
While different executions may be performed by different threads, the
effects of prior executions happen-before those of subsequent ones
.




As such, each execution of Counter#run is guaranteed to see the value of count after it's been incremented by the previous execution. For example, the third execution will read a count value of 2 before it performs its increment.



You don't need volatile or any other additional synchronization mechanism for this specific use case.






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    No this code is not thread-safe because there is no happens-before relation between increments made in different threads started with ScheduledExecutorService.



    To fix it you need to either mark variable as volatile or switch to AtomicInteger or AtomicLong.



    UPDATE:
    As @BoristheSpider mentioned, in general in case of increment/decrement making variable volatile is not enough since increment/decrement is not atomic itself and calling it from several threads concurrently will cause race conditions and missed updates. However in this particular case scheduleWithFixedDelay() guarantees (according to Javadoc) that there will be overlapping executions of scheduled task so volatile will also work in this particular case even with increment.






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    • @BoristheSpider taking into account how scheduleWithFixedDelay work there will be no overlapped calls to counter++ in that particular scenario. So volatile should be OK.

      – Ivan
      3 hours ago












    • There is a happens-before relation introduced between subsequent execution of a task scheduled with scheduleWithFixedDelay.

      – Sotirios Delimanolis
      2 hours ago











    • How come volatile is not enough? The semantics of volatile should hold in every case and it would solve this problem. In the past, the writing of doubles and longs could have been more difficult to do atomically since those occupied more than one 32-bit register. However, as far as I can tell, that should not affect the semantics of volatile. Or am I missing something?

      – Edwin Dalorzo
      1 hour ago











    • @EdwinDalorzo in this particular case volatile is enough. But in general case not because increment is effectively translated into 3 operations: read, add, write and is prone to race condition in multithreaded environment

      – Ivan
      1 hour ago











    • To reiterate, the code they have posted is thread-safe. This answer is wrong.

      – Sotirios Delimanolis
      52 mins ago















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    No this code is not thread-safe because there is no happens-before relation between increments made in different threads started with ScheduledExecutorService.



    To fix it you need to either mark variable as volatile or switch to AtomicInteger or AtomicLong.



    UPDATE:
    As @BoristheSpider mentioned, in general in case of increment/decrement making variable volatile is not enough since increment/decrement is not atomic itself and calling it from several threads concurrently will cause race conditions and missed updates. However in this particular case scheduleWithFixedDelay() guarantees (according to Javadoc) that there will be overlapping executions of scheduled task so volatile will also work in this particular case even with increment.






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    • @BoristheSpider taking into account how scheduleWithFixedDelay work there will be no overlapped calls to counter++ in that particular scenario. So volatile should be OK.

      – Ivan
      3 hours ago












    • There is a happens-before relation introduced between subsequent execution of a task scheduled with scheduleWithFixedDelay.

      – Sotirios Delimanolis
      2 hours ago











    • How come volatile is not enough? The semantics of volatile should hold in every case and it would solve this problem. In the past, the writing of doubles and longs could have been more difficult to do atomically since those occupied more than one 32-bit register. However, as far as I can tell, that should not affect the semantics of volatile. Or am I missing something?

      – Edwin Dalorzo
      1 hour ago











    • @EdwinDalorzo in this particular case volatile is enough. But in general case not because increment is effectively translated into 3 operations: read, add, write and is prone to race condition in multithreaded environment

      – Ivan
      1 hour ago











    • To reiterate, the code they have posted is thread-safe. This answer is wrong.

      – Sotirios Delimanolis
      52 mins ago













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    No this code is not thread-safe because there is no happens-before relation between increments made in different threads started with ScheduledExecutorService.



    To fix it you need to either mark variable as volatile or switch to AtomicInteger or AtomicLong.



    UPDATE:
    As @BoristheSpider mentioned, in general in case of increment/decrement making variable volatile is not enough since increment/decrement is not atomic itself and calling it from several threads concurrently will cause race conditions and missed updates. However in this particular case scheduleWithFixedDelay() guarantees (according to Javadoc) that there will be overlapping executions of scheduled task so volatile will also work in this particular case even with increment.






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    No this code is not thread-safe because there is no happens-before relation between increments made in different threads started with ScheduledExecutorService.



    To fix it you need to either mark variable as volatile or switch to AtomicInteger or AtomicLong.



    UPDATE:
    As @BoristheSpider mentioned, in general in case of increment/decrement making variable volatile is not enough since increment/decrement is not atomic itself and calling it from several threads concurrently will cause race conditions and missed updates. However in this particular case scheduleWithFixedDelay() guarantees (according to Javadoc) that there will be overlapping executions of scheduled task so volatile will also work in this particular case even with increment.







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    • @BoristheSpider taking into account how scheduleWithFixedDelay work there will be no overlapped calls to counter++ in that particular scenario. So volatile should be OK.

      – Ivan
      3 hours ago












    • There is a happens-before relation introduced between subsequent execution of a task scheduled with scheduleWithFixedDelay.

      – Sotirios Delimanolis
      2 hours ago











    • How come volatile is not enough? The semantics of volatile should hold in every case and it would solve this problem. In the past, the writing of doubles and longs could have been more difficult to do atomically since those occupied more than one 32-bit register. However, as far as I can tell, that should not affect the semantics of volatile. Or am I missing something?

      – Edwin Dalorzo
      1 hour ago











    • @EdwinDalorzo in this particular case volatile is enough. But in general case not because increment is effectively translated into 3 operations: read, add, write and is prone to race condition in multithreaded environment

      – Ivan
      1 hour ago











    • To reiterate, the code they have posted is thread-safe. This answer is wrong.

      – Sotirios Delimanolis
      52 mins ago

















    • @BoristheSpider taking into account how scheduleWithFixedDelay work there will be no overlapped calls to counter++ in that particular scenario. So volatile should be OK.

      – Ivan
      3 hours ago












    • There is a happens-before relation introduced between subsequent execution of a task scheduled with scheduleWithFixedDelay.

      – Sotirios Delimanolis
      2 hours ago











    • How come volatile is not enough? The semantics of volatile should hold in every case and it would solve this problem. In the past, the writing of doubles and longs could have been more difficult to do atomically since those occupied more than one 32-bit register. However, as far as I can tell, that should not affect the semantics of volatile. Or am I missing something?

      – Edwin Dalorzo
      1 hour ago











    • @EdwinDalorzo in this particular case volatile is enough. But in general case not because increment is effectively translated into 3 operations: read, add, write and is prone to race condition in multithreaded environment

      – Ivan
      1 hour ago











    • To reiterate, the code they have posted is thread-safe. This answer is wrong.

      – Sotirios Delimanolis
      52 mins ago
















    @BoristheSpider taking into account how scheduleWithFixedDelay work there will be no overlapped calls to counter++ in that particular scenario. So volatile should be OK.

    – Ivan
    3 hours ago






    @BoristheSpider taking into account how scheduleWithFixedDelay work there will be no overlapped calls to counter++ in that particular scenario. So volatile should be OK.

    – Ivan
    3 hours ago














    There is a happens-before relation introduced between subsequent execution of a task scheduled with scheduleWithFixedDelay.

    – Sotirios Delimanolis
    2 hours ago





    There is a happens-before relation introduced between subsequent execution of a task scheduled with scheduleWithFixedDelay.

    – Sotirios Delimanolis
    2 hours ago













    How come volatile is not enough? The semantics of volatile should hold in every case and it would solve this problem. In the past, the writing of doubles and longs could have been more difficult to do atomically since those occupied more than one 32-bit register. However, as far as I can tell, that should not affect the semantics of volatile. Or am I missing something?

    – Edwin Dalorzo
    1 hour ago





    How come volatile is not enough? The semantics of volatile should hold in every case and it would solve this problem. In the past, the writing of doubles and longs could have been more difficult to do atomically since those occupied more than one 32-bit register. However, as far as I can tell, that should not affect the semantics of volatile. Or am I missing something?

    – Edwin Dalorzo
    1 hour ago













    @EdwinDalorzo in this particular case volatile is enough. But in general case not because increment is effectively translated into 3 operations: read, add, write and is prone to race condition in multithreaded environment

    – Ivan
    1 hour ago





    @EdwinDalorzo in this particular case volatile is enough. But in general case not because increment is effectively translated into 3 operations: read, add, write and is prone to race condition in multithreaded environment

    – Ivan
    1 hour ago













    To reiterate, the code they have posted is thread-safe. This answer is wrong.

    – Sotirios Delimanolis
    52 mins ago





    To reiterate, the code they have posted is thread-safe. This answer is wrong.

    – Sotirios Delimanolis
    52 mins ago













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    No this is code is not thread safe since there is no happens before relation between different threads accessing count.






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      Even then it's not thread safe, because ++ isn't atomic.

      – Andy Turner
      3 hours ago






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      @michid please correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't counter++ be synchronized too as increment operation is not atomic.

      – Yug Singh
      3 hours ago






    • 1





      Does counter++ need to be synchronized even if it's guaranteed that only one thread will be running this runnable at a time (like in the code in the question)?

      – RandomQuestion
      3 hours ago












    • @RandomQuestion yes. Because visibility.

      – Boris the Spider
      3 hours ago












    • I agree with the comments here that accesses to counter++ should be synchronized and that merely declaring it volatile is not sufficient. I edited my answer accordingly focusing on the happens-before relation.

      – michid
      3 hours ago















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    No this is code is not thread safe since there is no happens before relation between different threads accessing count.






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      Even then it's not thread safe, because ++ isn't atomic.

      – Andy Turner
      3 hours ago






    • 1





      @michid please correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't counter++ be synchronized too as increment operation is not atomic.

      – Yug Singh
      3 hours ago






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      Does counter++ need to be synchronized even if it's guaranteed that only one thread will be running this runnable at a time (like in the code in the question)?

      – RandomQuestion
      3 hours ago












    • @RandomQuestion yes. Because visibility.

      – Boris the Spider
      3 hours ago












    • I agree with the comments here that accesses to counter++ should be synchronized and that merely declaring it volatile is not sufficient. I edited my answer accordingly focusing on the happens-before relation.

      – michid
      3 hours ago













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    No this is code is not thread safe since there is no happens before relation between different threads accessing count.






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    No this is code is not thread safe since there is no happens before relation between different threads accessing count.







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      Even then it's not thread safe, because ++ isn't atomic.

      – Andy Turner
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      @michid please correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't counter++ be synchronized too as increment operation is not atomic.

      – Yug Singh
      3 hours ago






    • 1





      Does counter++ need to be synchronized even if it's guaranteed that only one thread will be running this runnable at a time (like in the code in the question)?

      – RandomQuestion
      3 hours ago












    • @RandomQuestion yes. Because visibility.

      – Boris the Spider
      3 hours ago












    • I agree with the comments here that accesses to counter++ should be synchronized and that merely declaring it volatile is not sufficient. I edited my answer accordingly focusing on the happens-before relation.

      – michid
      3 hours ago












    • 1





      Even then it's not thread safe, because ++ isn't atomic.

      – Andy Turner
      3 hours ago






    • 1





      @michid please correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't counter++ be synchronized too as increment operation is not atomic.

      – Yug Singh
      3 hours ago






    • 1





      Does counter++ need to be synchronized even if it's guaranteed that only one thread will be running this runnable at a time (like in the code in the question)?

      – RandomQuestion
      3 hours ago












    • @RandomQuestion yes. Because visibility.

      – Boris the Spider
      3 hours ago












    • I agree with the comments here that accesses to counter++ should be synchronized and that merely declaring it volatile is not sufficient. I edited my answer accordingly focusing on the happens-before relation.

      – michid
      3 hours ago







    1




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    Even then it's not thread safe, because ++ isn't atomic.

    – Andy Turner
    3 hours ago





    Even then it's not thread safe, because ++ isn't atomic.

    – Andy Turner
    3 hours ago




    1




    1





    @michid please correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't counter++ be synchronized too as increment operation is not atomic.

    – Yug Singh
    3 hours ago





    @michid please correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't counter++ be synchronized too as increment operation is not atomic.

    – Yug Singh
    3 hours ago




    1




    1





    Does counter++ need to be synchronized even if it's guaranteed that only one thread will be running this runnable at a time (like in the code in the question)?

    – RandomQuestion
    3 hours ago






    Does counter++ need to be synchronized even if it's guaranteed that only one thread will be running this runnable at a time (like in the code in the question)?

    – RandomQuestion
    3 hours ago














    @RandomQuestion yes. Because visibility.

    – Boris the Spider
    3 hours ago






    @RandomQuestion yes. Because visibility.

    – Boris the Spider
    3 hours ago














    I agree with the comments here that accesses to counter++ should be synchronized and that merely declaring it volatile is not sufficient. I edited my answer accordingly focusing on the happens-before relation.

    – michid
    3 hours ago





    I agree with the comments here that accesses to counter++ should be synchronized and that merely declaring it volatile is not sufficient. I edited my answer accordingly focusing on the happens-before relation.

    – michid
    3 hours ago











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    Does object always see its latest internal state irrespective of thread?



    Just to be clear for the purposes of this question and its answers, an object doesn't do anything, it's just memory. Threads are the executing entity. It's misleading to say does an object see whatever. It's the thread that's doing the seeing/reading of object state.



    This isn't specified in the javadoc, but



    Executors.newScheduledThreadPool(5);


    returns a ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.



    Your code is using



    executorService.scheduleWithFixedDelay(counter, 1, 1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);


    The javadoc for ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor#scheduledWithFixedDelay states




    Submits a periodic action that becomes enabled first after the given
    initial delay, and subsequently with the given delay between the
    termination of one execution and the commencement of the next.




    The class javadoc further clarifies




    Successive executions of a periodic task scheduled via
    scheduleAtFixedRate or scheduleWithFixedDelay do not overlap.
    While different executions may be performed by different threads, the
    effects of prior executions happen-before those of subsequent ones
    .




    As such, each execution of Counter#run is guaranteed to see the value of count after it's been incremented by the previous execution. For example, the third execution will read a count value of 2 before it performs its increment.



    You don't need volatile or any other additional synchronization mechanism for this specific use case.






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      Does object always see its latest internal state irrespective of thread?



      Just to be clear for the purposes of this question and its answers, an object doesn't do anything, it's just memory. Threads are the executing entity. It's misleading to say does an object see whatever. It's the thread that's doing the seeing/reading of object state.



      This isn't specified in the javadoc, but



      Executors.newScheduledThreadPool(5);


      returns a ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.



      Your code is using



      executorService.scheduleWithFixedDelay(counter, 1, 1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);


      The javadoc for ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor#scheduledWithFixedDelay states




      Submits a periodic action that becomes enabled first after the given
      initial delay, and subsequently with the given delay between the
      termination of one execution and the commencement of the next.




      The class javadoc further clarifies




      Successive executions of a periodic task scheduled via
      scheduleAtFixedRate or scheduleWithFixedDelay do not overlap.
      While different executions may be performed by different threads, the
      effects of prior executions happen-before those of subsequent ones
      .




      As such, each execution of Counter#run is guaranteed to see the value of count after it's been incremented by the previous execution. For example, the third execution will read a count value of 2 before it performs its increment.



      You don't need volatile or any other additional synchronization mechanism for this specific use case.






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        Does object always see its latest internal state irrespective of thread?



        Just to be clear for the purposes of this question and its answers, an object doesn't do anything, it's just memory. Threads are the executing entity. It's misleading to say does an object see whatever. It's the thread that's doing the seeing/reading of object state.



        This isn't specified in the javadoc, but



        Executors.newScheduledThreadPool(5);


        returns a ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.



        Your code is using



        executorService.scheduleWithFixedDelay(counter, 1, 1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);


        The javadoc for ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor#scheduledWithFixedDelay states




        Submits a periodic action that becomes enabled first after the given
        initial delay, and subsequently with the given delay between the
        termination of one execution and the commencement of the next.




        The class javadoc further clarifies




        Successive executions of a periodic task scheduled via
        scheduleAtFixedRate or scheduleWithFixedDelay do not overlap.
        While different executions may be performed by different threads, the
        effects of prior executions happen-before those of subsequent ones
        .




        As such, each execution of Counter#run is guaranteed to see the value of count after it's been incremented by the previous execution. For example, the third execution will read a count value of 2 before it performs its increment.



        You don't need volatile or any other additional synchronization mechanism for this specific use case.






        share|improve this answer















        Does object always see its latest internal state irrespective of thread?



        Just to be clear for the purposes of this question and its answers, an object doesn't do anything, it's just memory. Threads are the executing entity. It's misleading to say does an object see whatever. It's the thread that's doing the seeing/reading of object state.



        This isn't specified in the javadoc, but



        Executors.newScheduledThreadPool(5);


        returns a ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.



        Your code is using



        executorService.scheduleWithFixedDelay(counter, 1, 1, TimeUnit.SECONDS);


        The javadoc for ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor#scheduledWithFixedDelay states




        Submits a periodic action that becomes enabled first after the given
        initial delay, and subsequently with the given delay between the
        termination of one execution and the commencement of the next.




        The class javadoc further clarifies




        Successive executions of a periodic task scheduled via
        scheduleAtFixedRate or scheduleWithFixedDelay do not overlap.
        While different executions may be performed by different threads, the
        effects of prior executions happen-before those of subsequent ones
        .




        As such, each execution of Counter#run is guaranteed to see the value of count after it's been incremented by the previous execution. For example, the third execution will read a count value of 2 before it performs its increment.



        You don't need volatile or any other additional synchronization mechanism for this specific use case.







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