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I’m 24 years old and have just landed an offer for my dream job.
I sailed through the interview process and the company were extremely impressed with my experience and performance during the process.
I came from 6 months in a similar role that I got from graduation, long story short, my previous job thinks that I got a 2:1 in my degree because I hadn’t checked my CV, and my education certificates were never checked. I was lucky, and I completed the job very successfully with no complaints.
Now this new job I applied to have my actual grades (2:2), and after making an offer they have asked for references. I know they are going to confirm degree with previous employer as I am a recent graduate, and they will know that I lied.
Please try to avoid lecturing, I know what I did was wrong, but I guess I want to know what you would do in my situation? What consequences will I face?
Edit: I agree, an educational reference SHOULD come from university/college, however all it would take in conversation is “xxx joined us for 6 months after graduating with a xxx from xxx”, immediately not adding up with the truth.
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I’m 24 years old and have just landed an offer for my dream job.
I sailed through the interview process and the company were extremely impressed with my experience and performance during the process.
I came from 6 months in a similar role that I got from graduation, long story short, my previous job thinks that I got a 2:1 in my degree because I hadn’t checked my CV, and my education certificates were never checked. I was lucky, and I completed the job very successfully with no complaints.
Now this new job I applied to have my actual grades (2:2), and after making an offer they have asked for references. I know they are going to confirm degree with previous employer as I am a recent graduate, and they will know that I lied.
Please try to avoid lecturing, I know what I did was wrong, but I guess I want to know what you would do in my situation? What consequences will I face?
Edit: I agree, an educational reference SHOULD come from university/college, however all it would take in conversation is “xxx joined us for 6 months after graduating with a xxx from xxx”, immediately not adding up with the truth.
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"because I hadn’t checked my cv, and my education certificates were never checked." ...so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
4
@SouravGhosh “so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?” - Yes, I had realised only when I had started at my previous job and didn’t want to jeopardise the opportunity. Now the new company will get in touch to confirm what I have told them, and both companies will know I got away with a huge lie.
– Tealover
5 hours ago
14
Why we they confirm your degree with your previous employer and not the educational institution that conferred the degree?
– cdkMoose
5 hours ago
12
I'm not in the UK (which I presume if the locale), but don't employers confirm academic records with the educational institution? I've never heard of employers checking academic records with the prior employer.
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
2
Refrence: What does 2:1 or 2:2 mean?
– rrauenza
1 hour ago
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I’m 24 years old and have just landed an offer for my dream job.
I sailed through the interview process and the company were extremely impressed with my experience and performance during the process.
I came from 6 months in a similar role that I got from graduation, long story short, my previous job thinks that I got a 2:1 in my degree because I hadn’t checked my CV, and my education certificates were never checked. I was lucky, and I completed the job very successfully with no complaints.
Now this new job I applied to have my actual grades (2:2), and after making an offer they have asked for references. I know they are going to confirm degree with previous employer as I am a recent graduate, and they will know that I lied.
Please try to avoid lecturing, I know what I did was wrong, but I guess I want to know what you would do in my situation? What consequences will I face?
Edit: I agree, an educational reference SHOULD come from university/college, however all it would take in conversation is “xxx joined us for 6 months after graduating with a xxx from xxx”, immediately not adding up with the truth.
job-search new-job references education
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I’m 24 years old and have just landed an offer for my dream job.
I sailed through the interview process and the company were extremely impressed with my experience and performance during the process.
I came from 6 months in a similar role that I got from graduation, long story short, my previous job thinks that I got a 2:1 in my degree because I hadn’t checked my CV, and my education certificates were never checked. I was lucky, and I completed the job very successfully with no complaints.
Now this new job I applied to have my actual grades (2:2), and after making an offer they have asked for references. I know they are going to confirm degree with previous employer as I am a recent graduate, and they will know that I lied.
Please try to avoid lecturing, I know what I did was wrong, but I guess I want to know what you would do in my situation? What consequences will I face?
Edit: I agree, an educational reference SHOULD come from university/college, however all it would take in conversation is “xxx joined us for 6 months after graduating with a xxx from xxx”, immediately not adding up with the truth.
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"because I hadn’t checked my cv, and my education certificates were never checked." ...so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
4
@SouravGhosh “so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?” - Yes, I had realised only when I had started at my previous job and didn’t want to jeopardise the opportunity. Now the new company will get in touch to confirm what I have told them, and both companies will know I got away with a huge lie.
– Tealover
5 hours ago
14
Why we they confirm your degree with your previous employer and not the educational institution that conferred the degree?
– cdkMoose
5 hours ago
12
I'm not in the UK (which I presume if the locale), but don't employers confirm academic records with the educational institution? I've never heard of employers checking academic records with the prior employer.
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
2
Refrence: What does 2:1 or 2:2 mean?
– rrauenza
1 hour ago
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1
"because I hadn’t checked my cv, and my education certificates were never checked." ...so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
4
@SouravGhosh “so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?” - Yes, I had realised only when I had started at my previous job and didn’t want to jeopardise the opportunity. Now the new company will get in touch to confirm what I have told them, and both companies will know I got away with a huge lie.
– Tealover
5 hours ago
14
Why we they confirm your degree with your previous employer and not the educational institution that conferred the degree?
– cdkMoose
5 hours ago
12
I'm not in the UK (which I presume if the locale), but don't employers confirm academic records with the educational institution? I've never heard of employers checking academic records with the prior employer.
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
2
Refrence: What does 2:1 or 2:2 mean?
– rrauenza
1 hour ago
1
1
"because I hadn’t checked my cv, and my education certificates were never checked." ...so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
"because I hadn’t checked my cv, and my education certificates were never checked." ...so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
4
4
@SouravGhosh “so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?” - Yes, I had realised only when I had started at my previous job and didn’t want to jeopardise the opportunity. Now the new company will get in touch to confirm what I have told them, and both companies will know I got away with a huge lie.
– Tealover
5 hours ago
@SouravGhosh “so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?” - Yes, I had realised only when I had started at my previous job and didn’t want to jeopardise the opportunity. Now the new company will get in touch to confirm what I have told them, and both companies will know I got away with a huge lie.
– Tealover
5 hours ago
14
14
Why we they confirm your degree with your previous employer and not the educational institution that conferred the degree?
– cdkMoose
5 hours ago
Why we they confirm your degree with your previous employer and not the educational institution that conferred the degree?
– cdkMoose
5 hours ago
12
12
I'm not in the UK (which I presume if the locale), but don't employers confirm academic records with the educational institution? I've never heard of employers checking academic records with the prior employer.
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
I'm not in the UK (which I presume if the locale), but don't employers confirm academic records with the educational institution? I've never heard of employers checking academic records with the prior employer.
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
2
2
Refrence: What does 2:1 or 2:2 mean?
– rrauenza
1 hour ago
Refrence: What does 2:1 or 2:2 mean?
– rrauenza
1 hour ago
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I know they are going to confirm degree with previous employer as I am a recent graduate, and they will know that I lied.
Why would they do that? I'm uncertain why they would call your employer rather than the university/college? Plus why would they check your grades or gpa? I never heard of that before.
Typically the background process will check the school if you graduated and with what degree/certifications. I never heard of a employer calling to check grades nor have I ever heard of an employer calling a previous job to double check what you wrote on their application while applying and if that matches what you gave them. That sounds rather silly to me and a complete waste of time and resource. "Did he lie to you about his gpa?" would not be a question they would ask each other.
They will need your consent, of course before asking or calling anyone or anything. They just can't call each other willy nilly going crazy and double checking each other's resumes if you lied about anything.
I have heard of:
- Background agency checking your education credentials. They are not going to look at your resume, but instead what you submit to them in an application with your consent.
- They will call your previous employer to verify you were an employee. Since they can be sued for libel/slander, they will not give any other information other than if you worked there, and if you were fired/let go of.
- They will check criminal records of course.
Going forward just don't lie. I wouldn't worry about your previous employer and instead going forward with this employer, don't lie.
How much information is a (former) employer or university allowed to share about an employee/graduate? Are they even allowed to confirm that you worked/graduated there?
– Michael
17 mins ago
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Well, there's only one way to recover from the pitfall of lying, tell the truth.
Given the state:
my previous job thinks that I got a 2:1 in my degree because I hadn’t checked my CV, and my education certificates were never checked
I'd say, you and your previous employer, both are at fault here. It is generally not considered a white lie, if you have a mistake in CV with the supporting documentation to get it cross verified (and corrected).
So, to declare the problem upfront, is the best solution here.
You did not lie (or, repeated the same mistake) when you applied at the current position, that's a good thing. You can also mention something along the line of:
"Oh, and one more thing I'd like to mention, in the records of my previous company, my grades are entered incorrectly. The actual is the ones I submitted the proofs for. In previous company the records/certificates were not checked properly, and the mistake in the CV went through to official records. I"m making sure it does not repeat here."
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In the case the new employer ask about it, I agree with your answer. But otherwise, I would not make a fuss about it... OP gave his/her true grades to his/her new employers so from my perspective, the truth is needed only if they ask you about it
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
2
@ThomasW. I'd beg to differ: the erroneous record is in the previous company, in the current company, it has nothing much to do with. However, mentioning proactively can help OP to "come clean".
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
7
I'm probably just confused because I've never heard about 'checking a new employe's grades'. In my country, it's quite common to check for diplomas for new graduates but not their grades.
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
1
For your first job out of college (maybe first 2 if you job hop quickly) I can see them caring about your GPA enough to check it. Maybe.
– Adonalsium
5 hours ago
1
@SouravGhosh If the previous employer never even bothered to verify their qualifications, I highly doubt that there is an "erroneous record" actually saved anywhere. Certainly not one that would ever be referenced again for any reason. I'm all in favor of honesty, but at this point you'd just be telling a third party that you've once lied to someone else in the past. It isnt a great starting point for trust, and would really come off as a rather strange non-sequitur.
– Tal
39 mins ago
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No one cares about your gpa or college grades after you have work experience. Just go with the flow. You'll probably get away with this.
In the future, don't include your gpa in your CV or resume, it's a waste of everyone's time. It's also a very poor indicator of performance, so if a company sees that you have work experience and still cares about your gpa, that's a red flag.
That being said, as a few people in the comments have pointed out, if your grades were fantastic, 3.7+ gpa, then bragging about it probably won't hurt you.
I do know that some people purposefully avoid hiring people with 4.0s, so there is a risk to this. I personally don't think there's any reason to give your potential employer more information to judge you by than is necessary, but if you want to go ahead. If your gpa is less than 3.5 don't list it. If it's between 3.5 and 3.7 don't list it after you have some real world experience. Go by your industry's standards for that.
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This is true in mid-to-late career, but if you are just starting out, I would think exemplary grades/scores can work in your favor.
– mcknz
1 hour ago
1
I have a Master's and 10+ years of experience, and I still put my GPA on my resume. I still get comments about it (4.0 for both B.S. and M.S.). It takes up what would otherwise be empty space and won't hurt me, so why not? I say use every advantage you can get; anything could separate you from another candidate.
– BloodGain
1 hour ago
In Britain, and much of the USA, lying about educational qualifications and grades can get you a jail sentence for fraud, even if you don't get the job.
– Michael Harvey
53 mins ago
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@MichaelHarvey where is anyone suggesting to lie?
– Captain Man
45 mins ago
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I know they are going to confirm degree with previous employer as I am a recent graduate, and they will know that I lied.
Why would they do that? I'm uncertain why they would call your employer rather than the university/college? Plus why would they check your grades or gpa? I never heard of that before.
Typically the background process will check the school if you graduated and with what degree/certifications. I never heard of a employer calling to check grades nor have I ever heard of an employer calling a previous job to double check what you wrote on their application while applying and if that matches what you gave them. That sounds rather silly to me and a complete waste of time and resource. "Did he lie to you about his gpa?" would not be a question they would ask each other.
They will need your consent, of course before asking or calling anyone or anything. They just can't call each other willy nilly going crazy and double checking each other's resumes if you lied about anything.
I have heard of:
- Background agency checking your education credentials. They are not going to look at your resume, but instead what you submit to them in an application with your consent.
- They will call your previous employer to verify you were an employee. Since they can be sued for libel/slander, they will not give any other information other than if you worked there, and if you were fired/let go of.
- They will check criminal records of course.
Going forward just don't lie. I wouldn't worry about your previous employer and instead going forward with this employer, don't lie.
How much information is a (former) employer or university allowed to share about an employee/graduate? Are they even allowed to confirm that you worked/graduated there?
– Michael
17 mins ago
add a comment |
I know they are going to confirm degree with previous employer as I am a recent graduate, and they will know that I lied.
Why would they do that? I'm uncertain why they would call your employer rather than the university/college? Plus why would they check your grades or gpa? I never heard of that before.
Typically the background process will check the school if you graduated and with what degree/certifications. I never heard of a employer calling to check grades nor have I ever heard of an employer calling a previous job to double check what you wrote on their application while applying and if that matches what you gave them. That sounds rather silly to me and a complete waste of time and resource. "Did he lie to you about his gpa?" would not be a question they would ask each other.
They will need your consent, of course before asking or calling anyone or anything. They just can't call each other willy nilly going crazy and double checking each other's resumes if you lied about anything.
I have heard of:
- Background agency checking your education credentials. They are not going to look at your resume, but instead what you submit to them in an application with your consent.
- They will call your previous employer to verify you were an employee. Since they can be sued for libel/slander, they will not give any other information other than if you worked there, and if you were fired/let go of.
- They will check criminal records of course.
Going forward just don't lie. I wouldn't worry about your previous employer and instead going forward with this employer, don't lie.
How much information is a (former) employer or university allowed to share about an employee/graduate? Are they even allowed to confirm that you worked/graduated there?
– Michael
17 mins ago
add a comment |
I know they are going to confirm degree with previous employer as I am a recent graduate, and they will know that I lied.
Why would they do that? I'm uncertain why they would call your employer rather than the university/college? Plus why would they check your grades or gpa? I never heard of that before.
Typically the background process will check the school if you graduated and with what degree/certifications. I never heard of a employer calling to check grades nor have I ever heard of an employer calling a previous job to double check what you wrote on their application while applying and if that matches what you gave them. That sounds rather silly to me and a complete waste of time and resource. "Did he lie to you about his gpa?" would not be a question they would ask each other.
They will need your consent, of course before asking or calling anyone or anything. They just can't call each other willy nilly going crazy and double checking each other's resumes if you lied about anything.
I have heard of:
- Background agency checking your education credentials. They are not going to look at your resume, but instead what you submit to them in an application with your consent.
- They will call your previous employer to verify you were an employee. Since they can be sued for libel/slander, they will not give any other information other than if you worked there, and if you were fired/let go of.
- They will check criminal records of course.
Going forward just don't lie. I wouldn't worry about your previous employer and instead going forward with this employer, don't lie.
I know they are going to confirm degree with previous employer as I am a recent graduate, and they will know that I lied.
Why would they do that? I'm uncertain why they would call your employer rather than the university/college? Plus why would they check your grades or gpa? I never heard of that before.
Typically the background process will check the school if you graduated and with what degree/certifications. I never heard of a employer calling to check grades nor have I ever heard of an employer calling a previous job to double check what you wrote on their application while applying and if that matches what you gave them. That sounds rather silly to me and a complete waste of time and resource. "Did he lie to you about his gpa?" would not be a question they would ask each other.
They will need your consent, of course before asking or calling anyone or anything. They just can't call each other willy nilly going crazy and double checking each other's resumes if you lied about anything.
I have heard of:
- Background agency checking your education credentials. They are not going to look at your resume, but instead what you submit to them in an application with your consent.
- They will call your previous employer to verify you were an employee. Since they can be sued for libel/slander, they will not give any other information other than if you worked there, and if you were fired/let go of.
- They will check criminal records of course.
Going forward just don't lie. I wouldn't worry about your previous employer and instead going forward with this employer, don't lie.
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How much information is a (former) employer or university allowed to share about an employee/graduate? Are they even allowed to confirm that you worked/graduated there?
– Michael
17 mins ago
add a comment |
How much information is a (former) employer or university allowed to share about an employee/graduate? Are they even allowed to confirm that you worked/graduated there?
– Michael
17 mins ago
How much information is a (former) employer or university allowed to share about an employee/graduate? Are they even allowed to confirm that you worked/graduated there?
– Michael
17 mins ago
How much information is a (former) employer or university allowed to share about an employee/graduate? Are they even allowed to confirm that you worked/graduated there?
– Michael
17 mins ago
add a comment |
Well, there's only one way to recover from the pitfall of lying, tell the truth.
Given the state:
my previous job thinks that I got a 2:1 in my degree because I hadn’t checked my CV, and my education certificates were never checked
I'd say, you and your previous employer, both are at fault here. It is generally not considered a white lie, if you have a mistake in CV with the supporting documentation to get it cross verified (and corrected).
So, to declare the problem upfront, is the best solution here.
You did not lie (or, repeated the same mistake) when you applied at the current position, that's a good thing. You can also mention something along the line of:
"Oh, and one more thing I'd like to mention, in the records of my previous company, my grades are entered incorrectly. The actual is the ones I submitted the proofs for. In previous company the records/certificates were not checked properly, and the mistake in the CV went through to official records. I"m making sure it does not repeat here."
10
In the case the new employer ask about it, I agree with your answer. But otherwise, I would not make a fuss about it... OP gave his/her true grades to his/her new employers so from my perspective, the truth is needed only if they ask you about it
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
2
@ThomasW. I'd beg to differ: the erroneous record is in the previous company, in the current company, it has nothing much to do with. However, mentioning proactively can help OP to "come clean".
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
7
I'm probably just confused because I've never heard about 'checking a new employe's grades'. In my country, it's quite common to check for diplomas for new graduates but not their grades.
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
1
For your first job out of college (maybe first 2 if you job hop quickly) I can see them caring about your GPA enough to check it. Maybe.
– Adonalsium
5 hours ago
1
@SouravGhosh If the previous employer never even bothered to verify their qualifications, I highly doubt that there is an "erroneous record" actually saved anywhere. Certainly not one that would ever be referenced again for any reason. I'm all in favor of honesty, but at this point you'd just be telling a third party that you've once lied to someone else in the past. It isnt a great starting point for trust, and would really come off as a rather strange non-sequitur.
– Tal
39 mins ago
add a comment |
Well, there's only one way to recover from the pitfall of lying, tell the truth.
Given the state:
my previous job thinks that I got a 2:1 in my degree because I hadn’t checked my CV, and my education certificates were never checked
I'd say, you and your previous employer, both are at fault here. It is generally not considered a white lie, if you have a mistake in CV with the supporting documentation to get it cross verified (and corrected).
So, to declare the problem upfront, is the best solution here.
You did not lie (or, repeated the same mistake) when you applied at the current position, that's a good thing. You can also mention something along the line of:
"Oh, and one more thing I'd like to mention, in the records of my previous company, my grades are entered incorrectly. The actual is the ones I submitted the proofs for. In previous company the records/certificates were not checked properly, and the mistake in the CV went through to official records. I"m making sure it does not repeat here."
10
In the case the new employer ask about it, I agree with your answer. But otherwise, I would not make a fuss about it... OP gave his/her true grades to his/her new employers so from my perspective, the truth is needed only if they ask you about it
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
2
@ThomasW. I'd beg to differ: the erroneous record is in the previous company, in the current company, it has nothing much to do with. However, mentioning proactively can help OP to "come clean".
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
7
I'm probably just confused because I've never heard about 'checking a new employe's grades'. In my country, it's quite common to check for diplomas for new graduates but not their grades.
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
1
For your first job out of college (maybe first 2 if you job hop quickly) I can see them caring about your GPA enough to check it. Maybe.
– Adonalsium
5 hours ago
1
@SouravGhosh If the previous employer never even bothered to verify their qualifications, I highly doubt that there is an "erroneous record" actually saved anywhere. Certainly not one that would ever be referenced again for any reason. I'm all in favor of honesty, but at this point you'd just be telling a third party that you've once lied to someone else in the past. It isnt a great starting point for trust, and would really come off as a rather strange non-sequitur.
– Tal
39 mins ago
add a comment |
Well, there's only one way to recover from the pitfall of lying, tell the truth.
Given the state:
my previous job thinks that I got a 2:1 in my degree because I hadn’t checked my CV, and my education certificates were never checked
I'd say, you and your previous employer, both are at fault here. It is generally not considered a white lie, if you have a mistake in CV with the supporting documentation to get it cross verified (and corrected).
So, to declare the problem upfront, is the best solution here.
You did not lie (or, repeated the same mistake) when you applied at the current position, that's a good thing. You can also mention something along the line of:
"Oh, and one more thing I'd like to mention, in the records of my previous company, my grades are entered incorrectly. The actual is the ones I submitted the proofs for. In previous company the records/certificates were not checked properly, and the mistake in the CV went through to official records. I"m making sure it does not repeat here."
Well, there's only one way to recover from the pitfall of lying, tell the truth.
Given the state:
my previous job thinks that I got a 2:1 in my degree because I hadn’t checked my CV, and my education certificates were never checked
I'd say, you and your previous employer, both are at fault here. It is generally not considered a white lie, if you have a mistake in CV with the supporting documentation to get it cross verified (and corrected).
So, to declare the problem upfront, is the best solution here.
You did not lie (or, repeated the same mistake) when you applied at the current position, that's a good thing. You can also mention something along the line of:
"Oh, and one more thing I'd like to mention, in the records of my previous company, my grades are entered incorrectly. The actual is the ones I submitted the proofs for. In previous company the records/certificates were not checked properly, and the mistake in the CV went through to official records. I"m making sure it does not repeat here."
edited 5 hours ago
answered 5 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
9,55064966
9,55064966
10
In the case the new employer ask about it, I agree with your answer. But otherwise, I would not make a fuss about it... OP gave his/her true grades to his/her new employers so from my perspective, the truth is needed only if they ask you about it
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
2
@ThomasW. I'd beg to differ: the erroneous record is in the previous company, in the current company, it has nothing much to do with. However, mentioning proactively can help OP to "come clean".
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
7
I'm probably just confused because I've never heard about 'checking a new employe's grades'. In my country, it's quite common to check for diplomas for new graduates but not their grades.
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
1
For your first job out of college (maybe first 2 if you job hop quickly) I can see them caring about your GPA enough to check it. Maybe.
– Adonalsium
5 hours ago
1
@SouravGhosh If the previous employer never even bothered to verify their qualifications, I highly doubt that there is an "erroneous record" actually saved anywhere. Certainly not one that would ever be referenced again for any reason. I'm all in favor of honesty, but at this point you'd just be telling a third party that you've once lied to someone else in the past. It isnt a great starting point for trust, and would really come off as a rather strange non-sequitur.
– Tal
39 mins ago
add a comment |
10
In the case the new employer ask about it, I agree with your answer. But otherwise, I would not make a fuss about it... OP gave his/her true grades to his/her new employers so from my perspective, the truth is needed only if they ask you about it
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
2
@ThomasW. I'd beg to differ: the erroneous record is in the previous company, in the current company, it has nothing much to do with. However, mentioning proactively can help OP to "come clean".
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
7
I'm probably just confused because I've never heard about 'checking a new employe's grades'. In my country, it's quite common to check for diplomas for new graduates but not their grades.
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
1
For your first job out of college (maybe first 2 if you job hop quickly) I can see them caring about your GPA enough to check it. Maybe.
– Adonalsium
5 hours ago
1
@SouravGhosh If the previous employer never even bothered to verify their qualifications, I highly doubt that there is an "erroneous record" actually saved anywhere. Certainly not one that would ever be referenced again for any reason. I'm all in favor of honesty, but at this point you'd just be telling a third party that you've once lied to someone else in the past. It isnt a great starting point for trust, and would really come off as a rather strange non-sequitur.
– Tal
39 mins ago
10
10
In the case the new employer ask about it, I agree with your answer. But otherwise, I would not make a fuss about it... OP gave his/her true grades to his/her new employers so from my perspective, the truth is needed only if they ask you about it
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
In the case the new employer ask about it, I agree with your answer. But otherwise, I would not make a fuss about it... OP gave his/her true grades to his/her new employers so from my perspective, the truth is needed only if they ask you about it
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
2
2
@ThomasW. I'd beg to differ: the erroneous record is in the previous company, in the current company, it has nothing much to do with. However, mentioning proactively can help OP to "come clean".
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
@ThomasW. I'd beg to differ: the erroneous record is in the previous company, in the current company, it has nothing much to do with. However, mentioning proactively can help OP to "come clean".
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
7
7
I'm probably just confused because I've never heard about 'checking a new employe's grades'. In my country, it's quite common to check for diplomas for new graduates but not their grades.
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
I'm probably just confused because I've never heard about 'checking a new employe's grades'. In my country, it's quite common to check for diplomas for new graduates but not their grades.
– Thomas W.
5 hours ago
1
1
For your first job out of college (maybe first 2 if you job hop quickly) I can see them caring about your GPA enough to check it. Maybe.
– Adonalsium
5 hours ago
For your first job out of college (maybe first 2 if you job hop quickly) I can see them caring about your GPA enough to check it. Maybe.
– Adonalsium
5 hours ago
1
1
@SouravGhosh If the previous employer never even bothered to verify their qualifications, I highly doubt that there is an "erroneous record" actually saved anywhere. Certainly not one that would ever be referenced again for any reason. I'm all in favor of honesty, but at this point you'd just be telling a third party that you've once lied to someone else in the past. It isnt a great starting point for trust, and would really come off as a rather strange non-sequitur.
– Tal
39 mins ago
@SouravGhosh If the previous employer never even bothered to verify their qualifications, I highly doubt that there is an "erroneous record" actually saved anywhere. Certainly not one that would ever be referenced again for any reason. I'm all in favor of honesty, but at this point you'd just be telling a third party that you've once lied to someone else in the past. It isnt a great starting point for trust, and would really come off as a rather strange non-sequitur.
– Tal
39 mins ago
add a comment |
No one cares about your gpa or college grades after you have work experience. Just go with the flow. You'll probably get away with this.
In the future, don't include your gpa in your CV or resume, it's a waste of everyone's time. It's also a very poor indicator of performance, so if a company sees that you have work experience and still cares about your gpa, that's a red flag.
That being said, as a few people in the comments have pointed out, if your grades were fantastic, 3.7+ gpa, then bragging about it probably won't hurt you.
I do know that some people purposefully avoid hiring people with 4.0s, so there is a risk to this. I personally don't think there's any reason to give your potential employer more information to judge you by than is necessary, but if you want to go ahead. If your gpa is less than 3.5 don't list it. If it's between 3.5 and 3.7 don't list it after you have some real world experience. Go by your industry's standards for that.
1
This is true in mid-to-late career, but if you are just starting out, I would think exemplary grades/scores can work in your favor.
– mcknz
1 hour ago
1
I have a Master's and 10+ years of experience, and I still put my GPA on my resume. I still get comments about it (4.0 for both B.S. and M.S.). It takes up what would otherwise be empty space and won't hurt me, so why not? I say use every advantage you can get; anything could separate you from another candidate.
– BloodGain
1 hour ago
In Britain, and much of the USA, lying about educational qualifications and grades can get you a jail sentence for fraud, even if you don't get the job.
– Michael Harvey
53 mins ago
1
@MichaelHarvey where is anyone suggesting to lie?
– Captain Man
45 mins ago
add a comment |
No one cares about your gpa or college grades after you have work experience. Just go with the flow. You'll probably get away with this.
In the future, don't include your gpa in your CV or resume, it's a waste of everyone's time. It's also a very poor indicator of performance, so if a company sees that you have work experience and still cares about your gpa, that's a red flag.
That being said, as a few people in the comments have pointed out, if your grades were fantastic, 3.7+ gpa, then bragging about it probably won't hurt you.
I do know that some people purposefully avoid hiring people with 4.0s, so there is a risk to this. I personally don't think there's any reason to give your potential employer more information to judge you by than is necessary, but if you want to go ahead. If your gpa is less than 3.5 don't list it. If it's between 3.5 and 3.7 don't list it after you have some real world experience. Go by your industry's standards for that.
1
This is true in mid-to-late career, but if you are just starting out, I would think exemplary grades/scores can work in your favor.
– mcknz
1 hour ago
1
I have a Master's and 10+ years of experience, and I still put my GPA on my resume. I still get comments about it (4.0 for both B.S. and M.S.). It takes up what would otherwise be empty space and won't hurt me, so why not? I say use every advantage you can get; anything could separate you from another candidate.
– BloodGain
1 hour ago
In Britain, and much of the USA, lying about educational qualifications and grades can get you a jail sentence for fraud, even if you don't get the job.
– Michael Harvey
53 mins ago
1
@MichaelHarvey where is anyone suggesting to lie?
– Captain Man
45 mins ago
add a comment |
No one cares about your gpa or college grades after you have work experience. Just go with the flow. You'll probably get away with this.
In the future, don't include your gpa in your CV or resume, it's a waste of everyone's time. It's also a very poor indicator of performance, so if a company sees that you have work experience and still cares about your gpa, that's a red flag.
That being said, as a few people in the comments have pointed out, if your grades were fantastic, 3.7+ gpa, then bragging about it probably won't hurt you.
I do know that some people purposefully avoid hiring people with 4.0s, so there is a risk to this. I personally don't think there's any reason to give your potential employer more information to judge you by than is necessary, but if you want to go ahead. If your gpa is less than 3.5 don't list it. If it's between 3.5 and 3.7 don't list it after you have some real world experience. Go by your industry's standards for that.
No one cares about your gpa or college grades after you have work experience. Just go with the flow. You'll probably get away with this.
In the future, don't include your gpa in your CV or resume, it's a waste of everyone's time. It's also a very poor indicator of performance, so if a company sees that you have work experience and still cares about your gpa, that's a red flag.
That being said, as a few people in the comments have pointed out, if your grades were fantastic, 3.7+ gpa, then bragging about it probably won't hurt you.
I do know that some people purposefully avoid hiring people with 4.0s, so there is a risk to this. I personally don't think there's any reason to give your potential employer more information to judge you by than is necessary, but if you want to go ahead. If your gpa is less than 3.5 don't list it. If it's between 3.5 and 3.7 don't list it after you have some real world experience. Go by your industry's standards for that.
edited 14 mins ago
answered 1 hour ago
SteveSteve
3,167620
3,167620
1
This is true in mid-to-late career, but if you are just starting out, I would think exemplary grades/scores can work in your favor.
– mcknz
1 hour ago
1
I have a Master's and 10+ years of experience, and I still put my GPA on my resume. I still get comments about it (4.0 for both B.S. and M.S.). It takes up what would otherwise be empty space and won't hurt me, so why not? I say use every advantage you can get; anything could separate you from another candidate.
– BloodGain
1 hour ago
In Britain, and much of the USA, lying about educational qualifications and grades can get you a jail sentence for fraud, even if you don't get the job.
– Michael Harvey
53 mins ago
1
@MichaelHarvey where is anyone suggesting to lie?
– Captain Man
45 mins ago
add a comment |
1
This is true in mid-to-late career, but if you are just starting out, I would think exemplary grades/scores can work in your favor.
– mcknz
1 hour ago
1
I have a Master's and 10+ years of experience, and I still put my GPA on my resume. I still get comments about it (4.0 for both B.S. and M.S.). It takes up what would otherwise be empty space and won't hurt me, so why not? I say use every advantage you can get; anything could separate you from another candidate.
– BloodGain
1 hour ago
In Britain, and much of the USA, lying about educational qualifications and grades can get you a jail sentence for fraud, even if you don't get the job.
– Michael Harvey
53 mins ago
1
@MichaelHarvey where is anyone suggesting to lie?
– Captain Man
45 mins ago
1
1
This is true in mid-to-late career, but if you are just starting out, I would think exemplary grades/scores can work in your favor.
– mcknz
1 hour ago
This is true in mid-to-late career, but if you are just starting out, I would think exemplary grades/scores can work in your favor.
– mcknz
1 hour ago
1
1
I have a Master's and 10+ years of experience, and I still put my GPA on my resume. I still get comments about it (4.0 for both B.S. and M.S.). It takes up what would otherwise be empty space and won't hurt me, so why not? I say use every advantage you can get; anything could separate you from another candidate.
– BloodGain
1 hour ago
I have a Master's and 10+ years of experience, and I still put my GPA on my resume. I still get comments about it (4.0 for both B.S. and M.S.). It takes up what would otherwise be empty space and won't hurt me, so why not? I say use every advantage you can get; anything could separate you from another candidate.
– BloodGain
1 hour ago
In Britain, and much of the USA, lying about educational qualifications and grades can get you a jail sentence for fraud, even if you don't get the job.
– Michael Harvey
53 mins ago
In Britain, and much of the USA, lying about educational qualifications and grades can get you a jail sentence for fraud, even if you don't get the job.
– Michael Harvey
53 mins ago
1
1
@MichaelHarvey where is anyone suggesting to lie?
– Captain Man
45 mins ago
@MichaelHarvey where is anyone suggesting to lie?
– Captain Man
45 mins ago
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"because I hadn’t checked my cv, and my education certificates were never checked." ...so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?
– Sourav Ghosh
5 hours ago
4
@SouravGhosh “so you mean, this was a typo and unintentional thing, and never got corrected because they did not cross check the CV with the actual certificates, right?” - Yes, I had realised only when I had started at my previous job and didn’t want to jeopardise the opportunity. Now the new company will get in touch to confirm what I have told them, and both companies will know I got away with a huge lie.
– Tealover
5 hours ago
14
Why we they confirm your degree with your previous employer and not the educational institution that conferred the degree?
– cdkMoose
5 hours ago
12
I'm not in the UK (which I presume if the locale), but don't employers confirm academic records with the educational institution? I've never heard of employers checking academic records with the prior employer.
– UnhandledExcepSean
5 hours ago
2
Refrence: What does 2:1 or 2:2 mean?
– rrauenza
1 hour ago