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why `nmap 192.168.1.97` returns less services than `nmap 127.0.0.1`?



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According to https://networkengineering.stackexchange.com/a/57909/, a packet sent to 192.168.1.97 "doesn't leave the host but is treated like a packet received from the network, addressed to 192.168.1.97." So same as sending a packet to loop back 127.0.0.1.



why does nmap 127.0.0.1 return more services than nmap 192.168.1.97?



Does nmap 127.0.0.1 necessarily also return those services returned by nmap 192.168.1.97? Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?



$ nmap -p0-65535 10.44.104.250

Starting Nmap 7.60 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2019-03-23 19:18 EDT
Nmap scan report for ocean (10.44.104.250)
Host is up (0.00039s latency).
Not shown: 65532 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
111/tcp open rpcbind
3306/tcp open mysql
33060/tcp open mysqlx

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 9.55 seconds

$ nmap -p0-65535 localhost

Starting Nmap 7.60 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2019-03-23 19:18 EDT
Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1)
Host is up (0.00033s latency).
Other addresses for localhost (not scanned):
Not shown: 65529 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
111/tcp open rpcbind
631/tcp open ipp
3306/tcp open mysql
5432/tcp open postgresql
9050/tcp open tor-socks
33060/tcp open mysqlx

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 5.39 seconds


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  • Because not all services are listening on the external interface?

    – Kusalananda
    3 hours ago






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    Possible duplicate of Difference between `nmap local-IP-address` and `nmap localhost`

    – Jeff Schaller
    3 hours ago











  • Seems to me that Rui's Answer there applies here.

    – Jeff Schaller
    3 hours ago











  • @Kusalananda In particular, does nmap 127.0.0.1 necessarily also return those services returned by nmap 192.168.1.97? Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

    – Tim
    3 hours ago












  • They're different addresses, why would a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

    – 炸鱼薯条德里克
    1 hour ago















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According to https://networkengineering.stackexchange.com/a/57909/, a packet sent to 192.168.1.97 "doesn't leave the host but is treated like a packet received from the network, addressed to 192.168.1.97." So same as sending a packet to loop back 127.0.0.1.



why does nmap 127.0.0.1 return more services than nmap 192.168.1.97?



Does nmap 127.0.0.1 necessarily also return those services returned by nmap 192.168.1.97? Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?



$ nmap -p0-65535 10.44.104.250

Starting Nmap 7.60 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2019-03-23 19:18 EDT
Nmap scan report for ocean (10.44.104.250)
Host is up (0.00039s latency).
Not shown: 65532 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
111/tcp open rpcbind
3306/tcp open mysql
33060/tcp open mysqlx

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 9.55 seconds

$ nmap -p0-65535 localhost

Starting Nmap 7.60 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2019-03-23 19:18 EDT
Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1)
Host is up (0.00033s latency).
Other addresses for localhost (not scanned):
Not shown: 65529 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
111/tcp open rpcbind
631/tcp open ipp
3306/tcp open mysql
5432/tcp open postgresql
9050/tcp open tor-socks
33060/tcp open mysqlx

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 5.39 seconds


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  • Because not all services are listening on the external interface?

    – Kusalananda
    3 hours ago






  • 3





    Possible duplicate of Difference between `nmap local-IP-address` and `nmap localhost`

    – Jeff Schaller
    3 hours ago











  • Seems to me that Rui's Answer there applies here.

    – Jeff Schaller
    3 hours ago











  • @Kusalananda In particular, does nmap 127.0.0.1 necessarily also return those services returned by nmap 192.168.1.97? Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

    – Tim
    3 hours ago












  • They're different addresses, why would a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

    – 炸鱼薯条德里克
    1 hour ago













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According to https://networkengineering.stackexchange.com/a/57909/, a packet sent to 192.168.1.97 "doesn't leave the host but is treated like a packet received from the network, addressed to 192.168.1.97." So same as sending a packet to loop back 127.0.0.1.



why does nmap 127.0.0.1 return more services than nmap 192.168.1.97?



Does nmap 127.0.0.1 necessarily also return those services returned by nmap 192.168.1.97? Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?



$ nmap -p0-65535 10.44.104.250

Starting Nmap 7.60 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2019-03-23 19:18 EDT
Nmap scan report for ocean (10.44.104.250)
Host is up (0.00039s latency).
Not shown: 65532 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
111/tcp open rpcbind
3306/tcp open mysql
33060/tcp open mysqlx

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 9.55 seconds

$ nmap -p0-65535 localhost

Starting Nmap 7.60 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2019-03-23 19:18 EDT
Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1)
Host is up (0.00033s latency).
Other addresses for localhost (not scanned):
Not shown: 65529 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
111/tcp open rpcbind
631/tcp open ipp
3306/tcp open mysql
5432/tcp open postgresql
9050/tcp open tor-socks
33060/tcp open mysqlx

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 5.39 seconds


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According to https://networkengineering.stackexchange.com/a/57909/, a packet sent to 192.168.1.97 "doesn't leave the host but is treated like a packet received from the network, addressed to 192.168.1.97." So same as sending a packet to loop back 127.0.0.1.



why does nmap 127.0.0.1 return more services than nmap 192.168.1.97?



Does nmap 127.0.0.1 necessarily also return those services returned by nmap 192.168.1.97? Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?



$ nmap -p0-65535 10.44.104.250

Starting Nmap 7.60 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2019-03-23 19:18 EDT
Nmap scan report for ocean (10.44.104.250)
Host is up (0.00039s latency).
Not shown: 65532 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
111/tcp open rpcbind
3306/tcp open mysql
33060/tcp open mysqlx

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 9.55 seconds

$ nmap -p0-65535 localhost

Starting Nmap 7.60 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2019-03-23 19:18 EDT
Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1)
Host is up (0.00033s latency).
Other addresses for localhost (not scanned):
Not shown: 65529 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
111/tcp open rpcbind
631/tcp open ipp
3306/tcp open mysql
5432/tcp open postgresql
9050/tcp open tor-socks
33060/tcp open mysqlx

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 5.39 seconds


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  • Because not all services are listening on the external interface?

    – Kusalananda
    3 hours ago






  • 3





    Possible duplicate of Difference between `nmap local-IP-address` and `nmap localhost`

    – Jeff Schaller
    3 hours ago











  • Seems to me that Rui's Answer there applies here.

    – Jeff Schaller
    3 hours ago











  • @Kusalananda In particular, does nmap 127.0.0.1 necessarily also return those services returned by nmap 192.168.1.97? Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

    – Tim
    3 hours ago












  • They're different addresses, why would a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

    – 炸鱼薯条德里克
    1 hour ago

















  • Because not all services are listening on the external interface?

    – Kusalananda
    3 hours ago






  • 3





    Possible duplicate of Difference between `nmap local-IP-address` and `nmap localhost`

    – Jeff Schaller
    3 hours ago











  • Seems to me that Rui's Answer there applies here.

    – Jeff Schaller
    3 hours ago











  • @Kusalananda In particular, does nmap 127.0.0.1 necessarily also return those services returned by nmap 192.168.1.97? Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

    – Tim
    3 hours ago












  • They're different addresses, why would a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

    – 炸鱼薯条德里克
    1 hour ago
















Because not all services are listening on the external interface?

– Kusalananda
3 hours ago





Because not all services are listening on the external interface?

– Kusalananda
3 hours ago




3




3





Possible duplicate of Difference between `nmap local-IP-address` and `nmap localhost`

– Jeff Schaller
3 hours ago





Possible duplicate of Difference between `nmap local-IP-address` and `nmap localhost`

– Jeff Schaller
3 hours ago













Seems to me that Rui's Answer there applies here.

– Jeff Schaller
3 hours ago





Seems to me that Rui's Answer there applies here.

– Jeff Schaller
3 hours ago













@Kusalananda In particular, does nmap 127.0.0.1 necessarily also return those services returned by nmap 192.168.1.97? Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

– Tim
3 hours ago






@Kusalananda In particular, does nmap 127.0.0.1 necessarily also return those services returned by nmap 192.168.1.97? Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

– Tim
3 hours ago














They're different addresses, why would a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

– 炸鱼薯条德里克
1 hour ago





They're different addresses, why would a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?

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No, a service listening to a port on an external interface does not necessarily also listen on that port on localhost.



You can test this with something like



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    In short, they are two different interfaces (192.168.1.97 vs 127.0.0.1), and may have different firewall rules applied and/or services listening. Being on the same machine means relatively little.






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      why does nmap 127.0.0.1 return more services than nmap 192.168.1.97?




      Because to improve security many services are configured by default to only listen on 127.0.0.1 (and/or the IPv6 equivilent ::1)




      Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?




      No



      Generally a service can create a listening socket to listen on.



      1. A specific IP, such a listening socket will only accept traffic destined for that specific IP.

      2. 0.0.0.0 , this will accept traffic to all IPv4 IPs assigned to the machine.

      3. :: this will accept traffic to all IPv6 IPs assigned to the machine. It may or may not accept traffic destined to IPv4 IPs on the machine depending on the particular OS, system wide configuration and socket-specific options.





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        No, a service listening to a port on an external interface does not necessarily also listen on that port on localhost.



        You can test this with something like



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          No, a service listening to a port on an external interface does not necessarily also listen on that port on localhost.



          You can test this with something like



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          Then run nmap against localhost, then against the external IP address.






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            No, a service listening to a port on an external interface does not necessarily also listen on that port on localhost.



            You can test this with something like



            nc -l external-ip-address port-number


            Then run nmap against localhost, then against the external IP address.






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            No, a service listening to a port on an external interface does not necessarily also listen on that port on localhost.



            You can test this with something like



            nc -l external-ip-address port-number


            Then run nmap against localhost, then against the external IP address.







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                In short, they are two different interfaces (192.168.1.97 vs 127.0.0.1), and may have different firewall rules applied and/or services listening. Being on the same machine means relatively little.






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                  In short, they are two different interfaces (192.168.1.97 vs 127.0.0.1), and may have different firewall rules applied and/or services listening. Being on the same machine means relatively little.






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                    In short, they are two different interfaces (192.168.1.97 vs 127.0.0.1), and may have different firewall rules applied and/or services listening. Being on the same machine means relatively little.






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                        why does nmap 127.0.0.1 return more services than nmap 192.168.1.97?




                        Because to improve security many services are configured by default to only listen on 127.0.0.1 (and/or the IPv6 equivilent ::1)




                        Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?




                        No



                        Generally a service can create a listening socket to listen on.



                        1. A specific IP, such a listening socket will only accept traffic destined for that specific IP.

                        2. 0.0.0.0 , this will accept traffic to all IPv4 IPs assigned to the machine.

                        3. :: this will accept traffic to all IPv6 IPs assigned to the machine. It may or may not accept traffic destined to IPv4 IPs on the machine depending on the particular OS, system wide configuration and socket-specific options.





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                          why does nmap 127.0.0.1 return more services than nmap 192.168.1.97?




                          Because to improve security many services are configured by default to only listen on 127.0.0.1 (and/or the IPv6 equivilent ::1)




                          Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?




                          No



                          Generally a service can create a listening socket to listen on.



                          1. A specific IP, such a listening socket will only accept traffic destined for that specific IP.

                          2. 0.0.0.0 , this will accept traffic to all IPv4 IPs assigned to the machine.

                          3. :: this will accept traffic to all IPv6 IPs assigned to the machine. It may or may not accept traffic destined to IPv4 IPs on the machine depending on the particular OS, system wide configuration and socket-specific options.





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                            why does nmap 127.0.0.1 return more services than nmap 192.168.1.97?




                            Because to improve security many services are configured by default to only listen on 127.0.0.1 (and/or the IPv6 equivilent ::1)




                            Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?




                            No



                            Generally a service can create a listening socket to listen on.



                            1. A specific IP, such a listening socket will only accept traffic destined for that specific IP.

                            2. 0.0.0.0 , this will accept traffic to all IPv4 IPs assigned to the machine.

                            3. :: this will accept traffic to all IPv6 IPs assigned to the machine. It may or may not accept traffic destined to IPv4 IPs on the machine depending on the particular OS, system wide configuration and socket-specific options.





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                            why does nmap 127.0.0.1 return more services than nmap 192.168.1.97?




                            Because to improve security many services are configured by default to only listen on 127.0.0.1 (and/or the IPv6 equivilent ::1)




                            Does a server listening at 192.168.1.97 necessarily also listen at 127.0.0.1?




                            No



                            Generally a service can create a listening socket to listen on.



                            1. A specific IP, such a listening socket will only accept traffic destined for that specific IP.

                            2. 0.0.0.0 , this will accept traffic to all IPv4 IPs assigned to the machine.

                            3. :: this will accept traffic to all IPv6 IPs assigned to the machine. It may or may not accept traffic destined to IPv4 IPs on the machine depending on the particular OS, system wide configuration and socket-specific options.






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