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Chess with symmetric move-square
Copycat chess is backHow many Chess Pieces are needed to control every square on the board?Equal Chess ControlEqual Chess Control With One ColorThe Knight Checker or Football ChessFairy Chess #1- The MastermindA Battle of Dysfunctional Kings (Chess)Mate in one with NO PIECES?A Chess Lock Puzzle?The ability-swap-circle chessCopycat chess is back
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Every move in chess involves moving a piece to a square. Let us call this square the "move-square" for that turn.
In the following, the move-square of the black player must be symmetrical (over the obvious center-horizontal) to the move-square by white on that turn. The requirements may be met with a white move, but an additional valid move for black must be shown to exist. This extra move is not included when counting the number of moves taken to reach one of the below conditions.
What is the shortest sequence (with symmetrical move-squares) resulting in a Rook x Rook capture?
Resulting in a Knight x Rook capture?
Resulting in Queen x Bishop capture?
chess checkerboard knight-moves
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Every move in chess involves moving a piece to a square. Let us call this square the "move-square" for that turn.
In the following, the move-square of the black player must be symmetrical (over the obvious center-horizontal) to the move-square by white on that turn. The requirements may be met with a white move, but an additional valid move for black must be shown to exist. This extra move is not included when counting the number of moves taken to reach one of the below conditions.
What is the shortest sequence (with symmetrical move-squares) resulting in a Rook x Rook capture?
Resulting in a Knight x Rook capture?
Resulting in Queen x Bishop capture?
chess checkerboard knight-moves
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Hi @ArtemLugin, welcome to Puzzling SE! (Take the tour if you haven't already!) Can you clarify if the same piece has to occupy black's move-square as white's, or can any piece count? For example, would something like 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 Ne2 be acceptable? Or is only Be7 by black possible?
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@PiIsNot3 Its doesn't have to be the same piece. Only the corresponding symmetric square. Assuming you mean Ne7 not Ne2 yes, thats acceptable
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I can't accept your edit as it contains improper grammar and is inaccurate. I'm open to suggestions and edits to improve understandability
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Every move in chess involves moving a piece to a square. Let us call this square the "move-square" for that turn.
In the following, the move-square of the black player must be symmetrical (over the obvious center-horizontal) to the move-square by white on that turn. The requirements may be met with a white move, but an additional valid move for black must be shown to exist. This extra move is not included when counting the number of moves taken to reach one of the below conditions.
What is the shortest sequence (with symmetrical move-squares) resulting in a Rook x Rook capture?
Resulting in a Knight x Rook capture?
Resulting in Queen x Bishop capture?
chess checkerboard knight-moves
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Every move in chess involves moving a piece to a square. Let us call this square the "move-square" for that turn.
In the following, the move-square of the black player must be symmetrical (over the obvious center-horizontal) to the move-square by white on that turn. The requirements may be met with a white move, but an additional valid move for black must be shown to exist. This extra move is not included when counting the number of moves taken to reach one of the below conditions.
What is the shortest sequence (with symmetrical move-squares) resulting in a Rook x Rook capture?
Resulting in a Knight x Rook capture?
Resulting in Queen x Bishop capture?
chess checkerboard knight-moves
chess checkerboard knight-moves
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Hi @ArtemLugin, welcome to Puzzling SE! (Take the tour if you haven't already!) Can you clarify if the same piece has to occupy black's move-square as white's, or can any piece count? For example, would something like 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 Ne2 be acceptable? Or is only Be7 by black possible?
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– PiIsNot3
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@PiIsNot3 Its doesn't have to be the same piece. Only the corresponding symmetric square. Assuming you mean Ne7 not Ne2 yes, thats acceptable
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– Artem Lugin
1 hour ago
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Thanks for the welcome
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– Artem Lugin
1 hour ago
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I can't accept your edit as it contains improper grammar and is inaccurate. I'm open to suggestions and edits to improve understandability
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– Artem Lugin
56 mins ago
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I think the question is clear enough, perhaps some terminology can be fixed but at least I can tell what’s being asked
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Hi @ArtemLugin, welcome to Puzzling SE! (Take the tour if you haven't already!) Can you clarify if the same piece has to occupy black's move-square as white's, or can any piece count? For example, would something like 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 Ne2 be acceptable? Or is only Be7 by black possible?
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– PiIsNot3
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@PiIsNot3 Its doesn't have to be the same piece. Only the corresponding symmetric square. Assuming you mean Ne7 not Ne2 yes, thats acceptable
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– Artem Lugin
1 hour ago
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Thanks for the welcome
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I can't accept your edit as it contains improper grammar and is inaccurate. I'm open to suggestions and edits to improve understandability
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I think the question is clear enough, perhaps some terminology can be fixed but at least I can tell what’s being asked
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– PiIsNot3
42 mins ago
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Hi @ArtemLugin, welcome to Puzzling SE! (Take the tour if you haven't already!) Can you clarify if the same piece has to occupy black's move-square as white's, or can any piece count? For example, would something like 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 Ne2 be acceptable? Or is only Be7 by black possible?
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Hi @ArtemLugin, welcome to Puzzling SE! (Take the tour if you haven't already!) Can you clarify if the same piece has to occupy black's move-square as white's, or can any piece count? For example, would something like 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 Ne2 be acceptable? Or is only Be7 by black possible?
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– PiIsNot3
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@PiIsNot3 Its doesn't have to be the same piece. Only the corresponding symmetric square. Assuming you mean Ne7 not Ne2 yes, thats acceptable
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– Artem Lugin
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@PiIsNot3 Its doesn't have to be the same piece. Only the corresponding symmetric square. Assuming you mean Ne7 not Ne2 yes, thats acceptable
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I think the question is clear enough, perhaps some terminology can be fixed but at least I can tell what’s being asked
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Partial (will update as I go)
R x R
This question demonstrates a 7 move sequence, but since we don’t have to copy each others’ moves, only the squares, we can also do the more interesting
1. a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. Rc3 Nc6 4. e4 Ne5 5. Rc5 Nc4 6. c3 Rc6 7. Bxc4 Rxc5
Apronus link
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Under your rules, here are my answers.
Rook X Rook:
1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rgxh8
Proof Game:
Apronus
Knight X Rook:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nh4 Nh5 3. Ng6 Ng3 4. Nxh8
Proof Game:
Apronus
Queen X Bishop:
1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Bg4 4. Qxg4
Proof Game:
Apronus
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The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
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– Rewan Demontay
43 mins ago
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Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
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– Rewan Demontay
40 mins ago
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True, but generally any variant will suffice.
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– Rewan Demontay
17 mins ago
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Oooh, I found one I really like. Looks kind of flashy IMO: 1.e4 e5 2. Qe2 Be7 3. Qb5 Bb4 4. Qxb4
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– Brandon_J
11 mins ago
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Great solutions. RookxRook can be improved
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Partial (will update as I go)
R x R
This question demonstrates a 7 move sequence, but since we don’t have to copy each others’ moves, only the squares, we can also do the more interesting
1. a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. Rc3 Nc6 4. e4 Ne5 5. Rc5 Nc4 6. c3 Rc6 7. Bxc4 Rxc5
Apronus link
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$begingroup$
Partial (will update as I go)
R x R
This question demonstrates a 7 move sequence, but since we don’t have to copy each others’ moves, only the squares, we can also do the more interesting
1. a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. Rc3 Nc6 4. e4 Ne5 5. Rc5 Nc4 6. c3 Rc6 7. Bxc4 Rxc5
Apronus link
answered 51 mins ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
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$begingroup$
Partial (will update as I go)
R x R
This question demonstrates a 7 move sequence, but since we don’t have to copy each others’ moves, only the squares, we can also do the more interesting
1. a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. Rc3 Nc6 4. e4 Ne5 5. Rc5 Nc4 6. c3 Rc6 7. Bxc4 Rxc5
Apronus link
answered 51 mins ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
1,772124
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Partial (will update as I go)
R x R
This question demonstrates a 7 move sequence, but since we don’t have to copy each others’ moves, only the squares, we can also do the more interesting
1. a4 a5 2. Ra3 Ra6 3. Rc3 Nc6 4. e4 Ne5 5. Rc5 Nc4 6. c3 Rc6 7. Bxc4 Rxc5
Apronus link
answered 51 mins ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
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answered 51 mins ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
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answered 51 mins ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
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Under your rules, here are my answers.
Rook X Rook:
1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rgxh8
Proof Game:
Apronus
Knight X Rook:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nh4 Nh5 3. Ng6 Ng3 4. Nxh8
Proof Game:
Apronus
Queen X Bishop:
1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Bg4 4. Qxg4
Proof Game:
Apronus
edited 35 mins ago
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The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
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– Rewan Demontay
43 mins ago
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Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
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– Rewan Demontay
40 mins ago
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True, but generally any variant will suffice.
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– Rewan Demontay
17 mins ago
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Oooh, I found one I really like. Looks kind of flashy IMO: 1.e4 e5 2. Qe2 Be7 3. Qb5 Bb4 4. Qxb4
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Great solutions. RookxRook can be improved
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Under your rules, here are my answers.
Rook X Rook:
1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rgxh8
Proof Game:
Apronus
Knight X Rook:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nh4 Nh5 3. Ng6 Ng3 4. Nxh8
Proof Game:
Apronus
Queen X Bishop:
1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Bg4 4. Qxg4
Proof Game:
Apronus
edited 35 mins ago
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answered 49 mins ago
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The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
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– Rewan Demontay
43 mins ago
1
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Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
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– Rewan Demontay
40 mins ago
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True, but generally any variant will suffice.
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– Rewan Demontay
17 mins ago
1
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Oooh, I found one I really like. Looks kind of flashy IMO: 1.e4 e5 2. Qe2 Be7 3. Qb5 Bb4 4. Qxb4
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– Brandon_J
11 mins ago
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Great solutions. RookxRook can be improved
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Under your rules, here are my answers.
Rook X Rook:
1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rgxh8
Proof Game:
Apronus
Knight X Rook:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nh4 Nh5 3. Ng6 Ng3 4. Nxh8
Proof Game:
Apronus
Queen X Bishop:
1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Bg4 4. Qxg4
Proof Game:
Apronus
edited 35 mins ago
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answered 49 mins ago
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Under your rules, here are my answers.
Rook X Rook:
1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rgxh8
Proof Game:
Apronus
Knight X Rook:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Nh4 Nh5 3. Ng6 Ng3 4. Nxh8
Proof Game:
Apronus
Queen X Bishop:
1. e4 e5 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Bg4 4. Qxg4
Proof Game:
Apronus
edited 35 mins ago
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answered 49 mins ago
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answered 49 mins ago
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The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
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– Rewan Demontay
43 mins ago
1
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Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
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– Rewan Demontay
40 mins ago
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True, but generally any variant will suffice.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
17 mins ago
1
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Oooh, I found one I really like. Looks kind of flashy IMO: 1.e4 e5 2. Qe2 Be7 3. Qb5 Bb4 4. Qxb4
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
11 mins ago
$begingroup$
Great solutions. RookxRook can be improved
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The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
43 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
40 mins ago
$begingroup$
True, but generally any variant will suffice.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
17 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
Oooh, I found one I really like. Looks kind of flashy IMO: 1.e4 e5 2. Qe2 Be7 3. Qb5 Bb4 4. Qxb4
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
11 mins ago
$begingroup$
Great solutions. RookxRook can be improved
$endgroup$
– Artem Lugin
3 mins ago
$begingroup$
The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
43 mins ago
$begingroup$
The game only has to end with one side capturing. So therefore it is correct.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
43 mins ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
40 mins ago
$begingroup$
Fixed. Your point has been well recievedl
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
40 mins ago
$begingroup$
True, but generally any variant will suffice.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
17 mins ago
$begingroup$
True, but generally any variant will suffice.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
17 mins ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Oooh, I found one I really like. Looks kind of flashy IMO: 1.e4 e5 2. Qe2 Be7 3. Qb5 Bb4 4. Qxb4
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– Brandon_J
11 mins ago
$begingroup$
Oooh, I found one I really like. Looks kind of flashy IMO: 1.e4 e5 2. Qe2 Be7 3. Qb5 Bb4 4. Qxb4
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
11 mins ago
$begingroup$
Great solutions. RookxRook can be improved
$endgroup$
– Artem Lugin
3 mins ago
$begingroup$
Great solutions. RookxRook can be improved
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Hi @ArtemLugin, welcome to Puzzling SE! (Take the tour if you haven't already!) Can you clarify if the same piece has to occupy black's move-square as white's, or can any piece count? For example, would something like 1. e4 e5 2. Be2 Ne2 be acceptable? Or is only Be7 by black possible?
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– PiIsNot3
1 hour ago
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@PiIsNot3 Its doesn't have to be the same piece. Only the corresponding symmetric square. Assuming you mean Ne7 not Ne2 yes, thats acceptable
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– Artem Lugin
1 hour ago
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Thanks for the welcome
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– Artem Lugin
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I can't accept your edit as it contains improper grammar and is inaccurate. I'm open to suggestions and edits to improve understandability
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– Artem Lugin
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I think the question is clear enough, perhaps some terminology can be fixed but at least I can tell what’s being asked
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– PiIsNot3
42 mins ago